new watchtower library 2011 in english is available here:.
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http://www.filestube.com/46b7d96d595f742503eb/go.html.
Watchtower Library for Mac is a program separate from the WTLIB (you still need the CD for it): http://watchtowerlibraryformac.info/
Either way, I'll be using this. It's always fun to have someone claim the WT doesn't do something when their own literature says they do.
anyone living in the upstate ny area?
i am looking for expert witnesses (ex-jw) to collaborate my story regarding jw doctrine.
i will pay for time lost, travel etc.
Anyone living in the upstate NY area? I am looking for expert witnesses (ex-JW) to collaborate my story regarding JW doctrine. I will pay for time lost, travel etc. These proceedings will not become part of an open access public record so anonymity is guaranteed.
Please contact me here by replying to this topic or sending me a private message.
looking at the 607/587 bce issue, i was wondering if the bethel could spin some new light to avoid embarassment and buy themselves an extra 25 years or so.. if it was 1935, they could claim that the call to close the doors to heaven was actually the real date of jesus' invisible reign and tie up two embarassments with one flash of light.. best i could find though, nothing really important happended then.
anyone else with better jw historical records think of an "out" for them?.
once 2014 comes, they are in for a major explanation.
What I did find was: Adolf Hitler announces German rearmament in violation of the Versailles Treaty.
So basically the beast that causes destruction from Babylon comes back out of the abyss because Jesus kicked Satan out of heaven.
I dunno, you can make whatever implication regarding past, present and future using the Bible, it's worse than Nostradamus.
my favorite games are fallout 3- played over 250 hours, black ops- played over 500 hours multiplayer/zombies, gta 4- played around 90 hours, pokemon ruby- played over 30 hours, pokemon firered- played over 30 hours.
i have modern warfare 3 but its kinda not what i expected, black ops was more fun.
what do you guys play?
StarCraft Brood War, Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2 and a bunch of old and indie games on Steam. Working through Amnesia and Abe's Oddysee, The Binding of Isaac and of course Minecraft.
i cannot look at this site freely, it would make my hubby and son very upset.
i have to hide what i'm looking at, or try to view this page very late or very early in the morning.
hubby has taken to getting up at 11:30pm or later, to see what i'm doing on the computer.
I had to sneak before too. I would just be up late, do it at work or whenever she wasn't there. To say, this didn't last very long as she got suspicious and eventually I came out that I didn't want to go out and she was forced by her JW family and elders to leave me.
Either way, I would suggest telling your hubby you don't want to go to the KH anymore. It may be hard and break up your relationship (if you're still interested in living with a person like that is another question) but it's absolutely necessary to keep your sanity.
You'll also be sleeping better as you'll be able to do the things you want (being on here) during the daytime.
obviously this is a very personal matter.
i can't believe i'm posting it here but i need to make myself.
i'm probably going to regret this.. i have discussed before that i was physically abused and neglected as a jw child.
@IMHO I agree there are many reasons one could have these types of symptoms. Even though past abuse may not be the sole reason for it, the literature on the topic suggests that it can contribute to it (meaning there is statistical evidence that such people are more likely to develop it). Other reasons could be repressed memories of sexual or other abuse, the process of deprogramming from cult practices which likewise has an effect on ones social life, behavior and even sexual/lifestyle choices and preferences, adjusting to life outside a cult or without constant control etc. etc.
I am not qualified to give any suggestions regarding the reasons behind it and I suggest nobody does give suggestions as to what the reasons are or are not, only a mental health professional can find that out after a careful process.
I do suggest that if you have personal experiences and solutions or just something good to share that may help Rebel8 find some relief without going through (sometimes expensive) healthcare please do share. Sometimes all that one is looking for is to share their problems and they may not even need a solution just somebody that sympathizes with them.
my jw mother in law is in town this week.
my jw wife and i went to my cousins new years party last night and came home after 2am while my inlaw watched the kids.
today she gets into a discussion with my wife that i overheard telling her we shouldn't have gotten home so late cuz she assumed her and my wife would go to the meeting today.
You need to be firm with those people. The motivation is to indoctrinate them while they are young (the reasoning is that maybe she'll remember later and be interested). They probably consider your older ones already a lost cause as they can make their own decisions. AND THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I HEARD OTHER GRANDPARENTS SAY AND DO!!!
So tell your MIL (or whoever) that you as head of household (use that term) need to give permission to take them anywhere and that she cannot skirt this by going to your wife. Say you're not opposed to their religion but you would prefer that if she wants to take them to church (use that term too unless you're an ex-JW) that you need to know first.
obviously this is a very personal matter.
i can't believe i'm posting it here but i need to make myself.
i'm probably going to regret this.. i have discussed before that i was physically abused and neglected as a jw child.
Hi,
I hope you don't regret posting here. First of all, you may need professional help to get over some of your fears. It is always good to remain vigilant but I personally experienced that the world is not that bad out there and the majority of people are not out to hurt anyone. The fact that you can react violently to perceived threats is a big red flashing light with sirens that you're not over certain things.
As one of my posts makes clear, I have also been physically and mentally abused and the abuser has always been protected by the JW organization (head of household, do not spare the rod, don't go to the police as this will bring reproach on the organization's name, no JW eye witnesses...) even though my brother developed epilepsy, my mother had seizures (which were blamed on demons), me and my mother both attempted suicide and I was thinking of it a lot, I attempted running away, I developed drinking problems at 16, the school and doctors started noticing etc.
I've gotten over a lot of things but it will always have an impact. Write down what you actually would like to change (eg. affection from others, having to sit in the corner of a restaurant (I prefer that as well), always looking over your shoulder, having the feeling of being followed (I still have that as well), needing alcohol or drugs to calm you down in certain situation, always guarding your stuff and feeling someone is out to take it (I still have that)) and then make up a plan on how you will try to get over it. One thing you could do is just move over one booth or table in a restaurant so there's only 1 group of people behind you and get comfortable with it and for each point make up small steps you think you can handle and see how it goes.
Talk to your husband and friends and see if they can help you with anything. I found out people will accept you and help you out especially if they know your background. Talk about your JW-involvement and abuse even though it may be difficult and you feel embarrassed, most people will not scorn you for it but try to understand. I have a lot of people that asked me questions about the JW and one of my friends actually had a JW come to his door and he had an enlightening talk with them about the two-witness rule and the abuse in the church (they formulated some excuse and left never to return)
http://www.jw-archive.org/2011/10/watchtower-library-2011.html
Check The Pirate Bay once in a while, it will eventually appear.
the 2012 yearbook has released the publisher statistics for the 2011 service year.
a scan of the report can be found at http://www.jwfacts.com/images/2011-publisher-report.pdf and i have started updating the graphs at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php.
as expected, it is following on from similar trends to the last 15 years.
Hi David,
Welcome to this site. Given you've been on this site a little over a year you must know some of these points?
According to the bible who is mediator for all men (hint: 1 Tim 2:5)?
According to the bible what book/magazine is the highest authority on theological teachings (hint: 2 Tim 3:16)?
Now answer me these:
According to the WT who is mediator for all men (hint: March 2012 Watchtower)?
According to the WT what book/magazine is the highest authority on theological teachings?
Now that you have contradicted the core of Christianity and the New Testament with WT teachings on your own using your own Bible, why should you not investigate any other contradictions or just admit that the WT contradicts the bible rather than support it?
